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Old Dec 09, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #1
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Default Alternate to Standar WoH/RC build

The truth is the WoH monk just doesn't have enough energy management in HA or GvG and neither does the RC monk which are most commonly used in HA today. That is where I got the idea for this build.
On a SF or SB build this is what I have thought of for the two monks.

Healer Monk----
Heal Other
Dwayna's Kiss
Orison of Healing
Healing Touch/Healing Breeze
Healing Seed
Peace And Harmony

Attributes:
Healing: 12+3
Divine Favor: 12+1
Rest into Protection


Last two slots are hex/condition removal or one slot can be divine spirit for further energy management

The job of htis monk is to cast peace and harmony on both monks right before the fighting starts. This ensures both monks will be good on energy throughout the match. Reapply when needed and this is 10x more effective than the long term energy management of WoH.

The second monk would be your typical RC monk but would have a lot better energy management since he has PaH on him. This will keep your monks in the game much longer.

I would like any additions/criticisms/changes.

I haven't tested this build in pvp yet but it works well in pve so I'm hoping to get a group that would be willing to test it soon.
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Old Dec 09, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13   #2
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total crap.
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Old Dec 09, 2006, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #3
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In HA, all you need is Channeling.

In GvG, all you need is Signet of Devotion and a team that know how to kite.

Peace and Harmony is a horrible skill, and WoH/RC isn't thestandard any more, Divert Hexes/Healer's Boon is.
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46   #4
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Peace and Harmony is the worst monk elite. Even Balthazar's Pendulum is better.
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03   #5
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Heal Breeze is bad idea lol
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21   #6
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Take Chanelling its very good for energy management.

Dont take healing breeze as like you said there are a lot of SF eles in HA so that regen wont really do much against the constant burning.

You could use mantra of flame aswel but you dont really want to stand in the middle of a meteor shower just to get 2 energy do you lol
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37   #7
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Dont take healing breeze as like you said there are a lot of SF eles in HA so that regen wont really do much against the constant burning.
Burning = 7 degen. Breeze = 7+ regen.

It would do SOMETHING. SF is deadly because of its massive damage + constant burning, and breeze WOULD technically help, but I still would never ever run it.
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38   #8
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Burning = 7 degen. Breeze = 7+ regen.

It would do SOMETHING. SF is deadly because of its massive damage + constant burning, and breeze WOULD technically help, but I still would never ever run it.
Condition Removal = 5 Energy

Stops burning, heals, and stops the next SF hit triggering that 100~ damage.
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48   #9
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you obviously dont know the meta, or how to monk WELL...

in HA its so easy to channeling tank that you REALLY dont need anything else.

and as far as i can see there is NO hex removal on that woh, if youre running an RC then wheres your hex removal?

try something like...

dwaynas kiss
light of deliverance/boon/glimmer
orison
heal other/party/infuse
draw conditions
mantra of flame
channeling
healing seed

14 healing
12 divine
6 insp
2 prot


run this along with a divert with dismiss condition and youve got a great combo
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07   #10
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Burning = 7 degen. Breeze = 7+ regen.

It would do SOMETHING. SF is deadly because of its massive damage + constant burning, and breeze WOULD technically help, but I still would never ever run it.

Was that a sarcasm?

Explain to me why would I spend 10 energy to stop someone burning when I could just use dismiss condition for 5 energy and take the whole burning out and heal , Oh lets not mention RC but with all the hex builds at the moment divert hexes is a better elite choice.
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25   #11
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Was that a sarcasm?

Explain to me why would I spend 10 energy to stop someone burning when I could just use dismiss condition for 5 energy and take the whole burning out and heal , Oh lets not mention RC but with all the hex builds at the moment divert hexes is a better elite choice.
he was merely stating that breeze isnt absolutely pointless as it would negate all degen for 10 seconds, but all in all it still sucks.
Hex Builds? i still havent seen more then one hex oriented build a day.
Channeling and Mantra of Flame or Ihex and some appropriate energy swaps are all you need for emanagment in HA. I still find divert hexes pointless in the current metagame
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Old Dec 10, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05   #12
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I got kicked out of Halls the other day because of some stupid hex build, guess what We thought the same thing you thought, "I still find divert hexes pointless in the current metagame" and brought RC instead, only if we had brought divert hexes instead...
I did say channeling is great, i dont agree much on mantra of flame because most SF eles bring winter now and also you dont want to stand in the middle of a meteor shower to get 2 energy do you?

"ofcourse not, its for the glowing gaze", still your choice, I find chanelling enough.
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Old Dec 11, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23   #13
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divert is kinda pointless when most teams out there are condtions, so divert is only doing you good for that one out of 20 teams that has hexes. you dont have to stand in meteor shower to get energy and dmg reduction from mantra, they have other skills that do fire dmg. and i see sf teams with winter as much as i see those hex based teams
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divert is kinda pointless when most teams out there are condtions, so divert is only doing you good for that one out of 20 teams that has hexes. you dont have to stand in meteor shower to get energy and dmg reduction from mantra, they have other skills that do fire dmg. and i see sf teams with winter as much as i see those hex based teams
The thing is, that one hex team will rape you without DH.

You can live without RC with Dismiss+Mend Cond(+Draw).
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